Ngo-Matshi 8, enye yeenkokeli ze-Belarian Inkcaso ye-Belarian Tithanovskaya intlanganiso kunye noMongameli wase-US Joe Biden, oxinzelela ukuba uWashington "ngoku unikela ingqalelo kwi-Belarus." Oku kwenzeke ngemvelaphi yokugxekwa konobhala we-US Anthony Blinken kwidilesi yabasemagunyeni baseBelarusi, kunye noMongameli waseBhululus Alexander Lukashenko ko " Nguwuphi imigaqo-nkqubo ezambelela kwi-United States ngokuchasene ne-Belarusian, kwaye yeyiphi imikhosi eya kuba kukubheja nguWashington, kudliwanondlebe no-Eurasia.Expert Drobknitsky.
-U-DIMIMGY OLEGOvich, uJoe Bvetn tiiden tiken tikhanovskaya ukufezekiswa ukusuka kwintlanganiso ne-USA yaseMelika?
-Sisiko elinje elinomzuzwana: nayiphi na inkcaso yenkululeko engenasiseko kungekudala okanye kamva iba ngumxhasi wamabango "abasemagunyeni beNtshona". Oku, ewe, sele umthetho wendalo. Yonke into ilula apha: Nokuba umntu une-democract enjalo, kungekudala, okanye kamva kufuneka akhethe - nokuba ucinga ngegunya le-Hushington, nto leyo Yonke into engaphantsi.
Zonke iincoko malunga nodidi lwedemokhrasi ngokwengqondo azichanekanga ngokwengqondo, kuba idemokhrasi yasentshona, njengoko sibona ngo-2020, ukukhanya kakhulu yindlela yokulawula inkululeko. Ukuze i-elite ukuba iqhubeke nokulawula, ayinamsebenzi ukuba kukho unyulo olulungileyo noluchanekileyo kunye nokubala iivoti, kukho umshicileli wasimahla. Ngenxa yoko, kuye wonke umntu ogcina okanye ophumeleleyo okanye enze kakuhle, kuya kufuneka uye kwikhaphethi kubasemagunyeni behlabathi, akukho nto iyamangalisa apha.
-Iemfuno zeSvetlana tikhanovskaya e-USA yanelisa? Yintoni enokubangela ukuba ulawulo lwaseMelika?
"Iya kulungqokelela entloko, ukuthi:" Wenze kakuhle, masiqhubeke. " Yonke into iya kuxhomekeka kuphela kwezi zicwangciso ezakhiweyo kwiSebe likaRhulumente ngokunxulumene namazwe akufutshane neRussia. Ezi zicwangciso azibotshwanga ngokupheleleyo, kodwa ngokubanzi yonke into iza kuxhomekeka kuyo.
Ingabonwa ukuba kwakamsinya nje ukuba ulawulo luka-Byyen lwaluza kuza kwi-White House, inani lezimali ezixhaswa ngezimali iindinyana ezahlukeneyo zanda kakhulu kuyo yonke indawo.
Ukuba ngaphambi kokuba yonke into ikwazi ukufihla i-Trump, waphosa ezi njongo (uTrump akazange athande ukwenza imali yedemokhrasi kwelinye ilizwe), ngoku, kwavulwa isango. Kodwa ezinye uhlaselo olucwangcisiweyo oluthe tye sele lungekabikho, nangona sibone ezona zinto zibonakalayo eBelasus, eRashiya njalo njalo njalo. Ndicinga ukuba uxinzelelo olukhulu kunye nokuhlaselwa kakhulu kusengaphambili.
-Nge-8 kaMatshi, ekuhambeni komnyhadala, amagqwetha asemhlabeni woyino lwe-US Anthony Alexander Lokaxander luxander lkashenko " Ngaba oku kuthetha utshintsho kwiqabaka yokugqibela yeWashington ubudlelwane be-MSCK?
- Okokuqala, igama elithi "Uxelelo lokugqibela laseYurophu" ayisiyonto intsha, ivela kulawulo lweClinton emva koko iqukethe ngexesha lolawulo luka-Obama lwazalisekiswa. Kuyabonakala ukuba, uAlexander Lukashenko, ngexesha lakhe lalikho ukukhohlisa, njengoko ulawulo, luzakudibana naye, kwaye ngenxa yoko kunokwenzeka ukugcina i-veri-veri-vector. Kucacile ukuba kwanaxa yayingeyiyo eyona nto isebenzele, kodwa ngoku - ngakumbi. Ngoku, ukuba abafowunelwa babasemagunyeni baqhutywa, ngelo xesha kuya kufuneka bacinge ngokuqinileyo malunga nenyaniso yokuba uAlexander Lukashenko ephindaphindiwe, kodwa enyanisweni awuyi kumphelela kuye.
Ingxaki kukuba ixesha apho bekunokwenzeka ngoncedo lwenzalo ethile phakathi kwamaziko amabini anyanzelekileyo ukuba bagobe. Kwaye iRussia iya kuba nzima ngakumbi ukunyamezela iibhodi ezininzi kwimida yabo-ayinagalelo kukhuseleko lwelizwe.
- Ngaba oku kuthetha ukuba ubudlelwane base-United States kunye nabasemagunyeni baseBelarus baya kuphinda bawohloka?
-Ndicinga, ewe, ngokwembono ye-ragmatic. Nangona kunjalo, ii-PRAGMAIRS kwiDemocrats zincinci-zineeprojekthi ezicacileyo zembono kunye neenjongo kule meko. Wayefuna ntoni uPompeo? Kwakufuneka abone ukuba i-China ayizukuya eBarrus ngaphambili kune-United States, yonke enye into yayingathandabuzi kakhulu. I-Belarus ngumda ochazwe ngokupheleleyo wehlabathi laseNtshona, kwaye kufuneka ingaphantsi kwimidla yaseNtshona. Ungabachaphazela njani iminqweno yentshona? Kucacile ukuba ngokuphulukana nolongamo, ngokugculelwa kobudlelwane neRussia, ukwahlulahlula ukusuka komelezelelo lwempembelelo yeMoscow.
Yonke le nto iqwalaselwe ngale ndlela, ke andizazi ukuba ikho malunga nokuphuculwa kwethutyana, ukuba ngequbuliso, i-Alexander Lukashenko ifuna ukudlala idemokhrasi yehlabathi, mhlawumbi iya kuphela ngokukhawuleza kwaye ibike ngokukhawuleza kwaye imbi ngokukhawuleza kwaye imbi ngokukhawuleza kwaye imbi ngokukhawuleza kwaye imbi kakhulu kwaye ibike ngokukhawuleza kwaye imbi ngokukhawuleza kwaye imbi kakhulu kwaye imbi ngokukhawuleza kwaye imbi kakhulu kwaye imbi ngokukhawuleza kwaye ibike ngokukhawuleza kwaye imbi ngokukhawuleza kwaye imbi ngokukhawuleza kwaye imbi ngokukhawuleza kwaye ibike ngokukhawuleza kwaye imbi ngokukhawuleza nangokungalunganga. Ke ngoko, umgca jikelele ulula kakhulu - ukukrazula, ukuqhekeza kwaye utshabalalise imeko. Ndicinga ukuba ukuxhaswa ngemali uyilo lwesibini loMboniso wesibini weSlavic State, njengoko bendizama ukwenza njalo, ngendlela, ulawulo ngo-2014 aluyi kuba ngenxa yeprojekti ecacileyo yolu hlobo lweprojekthi. Ke ngoko, baya kwaphula kwaye bangathanga ngaphandle kwemidlalo babe ngolunye uhlobo lweLizwe leLiberal.
- Sisiphi isicwangciso-qhinga esiya kubambelela kwi-United States ngokuchasene nenkcaso ye-Belarusia? Ngubani lo ukubheja kuya kuqhubeka?
- Ngoku uLawulo lwaseMelika ngokubanzi kwaye abaphantsi kwabo kwikhomishini yaseYurophu banamabango anzima kwinkcaso yenkululeko kwindawo yasemva kweSoviet, kuba abanakwenza nto kakhulu. Ngoku kuya kubakho uhlaziyo lwamaqhinga. Imali eninzi iya kwabelwa le meko. E-US, kukho ukukhohlisa, ukuba ubela imali eninzi, yonke into iya kuphuma.
Ngayiphi na imeko, ingcinezelo iya kukhula. Ngoku kuphela kwento enokuthiwa kukuba inqaku lalapha alikho kwale nkcaza le nkcaso (esi sisiphumo), kwaye imeko kukuba ukuphoxeka kwabasemagunyeni kwinkcaso yenkululeko, nto leyo Ithuba le-ssoviet likhona namhlanje.
Kwaye emva koko baya kwenza ngokulandelayo - bayabona. Ngoku kuyacaca ukuba kwizicwangciso zendawo yaseSoviet isanyithiwe.
- Kwimeko apho intwasahlobo eBarlus iya kuphinda iqhubeke nokuthumela izabelo zoqhanqalazo, iya kuba yintoni impendulo yase-US?
-UMbuzo yindlela abaya kubaxhasa ngayo - ngokugqibeleleyo 'sikunye nawe "njalo njalo okanye sibe luncedo oluninzi loncedo kulungelelwaniso. Inqanaba lenkxaso lixhomekeke kakhulu kwezinto eziza kwakhiwa kwiNdlu Emhlophe, indlela abazibona ngayo yonke le nto. Ukuza kuthi ga ngoku, kukho uhlobo oluthile lokudideka, olunxulumene nenyaniso yokuba nayiphi na iinjongo zonke ezi zabelo eBelasus azifiki kwenye indawo, kwaye kucacile ukuba iqhinga liya kuhlaziywa. Ukuba abantu baphuma, baya kuthi ke bayixhase enye into. Abameli abaninzi beSebe leSizwe baya kuxela amagama abo afanelekileyo, kodwa owona mbuzo wenkxaso uya kusonjululwa ngokuxhomekeka ukuba amaqhinga aya kwamkelwa.
Kutshanje, uMongameli Vladimir Spin nomongameli Alexander Lukashenko eyenziwe eSochi, apho iinkokeli zamazwe zixubushela intsebenzo ye-United States. Ngaba Kuya Kuchaphazela Kwezopolitiko?
-Umgaqo-nkqubo wase-US kunye nentshona ye-US ngokubhekisele eBelarus kwaye naliphi na elinye ilizwe eRussia litshintshwa kuphela ukuba isicwangciso sethu siya kutshintsha kwindawo yasemva kweSoviet. Ukuza kuthi ga ngoku, akukho mvakalelo yokuba isicwangciso sitshintshwe kakhulu.
ERussia, le yimeko yokuba le yeyona nto iphambili kuyo, kwaye kude kube le meko imeko iya kuhlala injalo. Yonke into itshintsha kuphela ngalo mzuzu xa kuyakuthiwa ukuba lo ngulo mda wempembelelo ye-moscow. HAYI "Samkela ukhetho loMonganya waseBelasus", kwaye "le yindawo yempembelelo yeMoscow." Kwaye ngalo mzuzu yonke into izakutshintsha, kwaye kude kube lelo xesha kuya kwenzeka okufanayo. Njengokuziqhelanisa nemidlalo (isiUkraine, umzekelo) ngaxa lithile, kukho into enokwaphula, kwaye kwinqanaba elithile amandla entshona anokwenza into. Kwakhona, i-nulle efanayo iza kufika kwinqanaba elithile, iikuki ziya kuhambisa, kwaye sele zinayo imali. Iskimu siyaziwa - xa amandla eqala ukuyenza buthathaka, kukho into eyenzekayo. Ngale ndlela, bendiya kwindawo ka-Alexander Lokashenko, andizange ndicinge. Sele egqibile wagqiba kwelokuba usindisiwe, kwaye inyani iyaqhubeka yonke le nto, kwaye akukho lusindiso kumbili ohlukeneyo. Ngelixa iRussia iya kuqhubeka nokuxhasa obu bunzima, amazwe avela kwindawo ekufutshane oya kuthi, ngaphandle kwaso nasiphi na isiqinisekiso kubuhlobo, uxolo kunye nazo zonke ezinye izinto.
Kubhengezwe uMaria Mamzelkina