UMphathiswa we-Armenian umphathiswa uAra Ayvaan uxelele udliwanondlebe
Kuphuhliso lolwalamano lwase-Russian-Armenia, isikhundla seYerevan ngokwenqanaba le-Karabakh, nokuba iArmenia ilungele ukuxoxa nge-Azerbaijan.
Njengamanqaku e-Arhente, udliwanondlebe noMphathiswa waceliwe ngoJanuwari, kwimpikiswano eyaphukileyo e-Armenia. Iimpendulo zemibuzo kaRia novosti bafika ngoLwesihlanu.
-Uye urevan ubona njani inqanaba le-karabakh kwixesha elizayo, kwaye njengenxalenye yefomathi yokuxoxayo kufuneka igqitywe: iRussia-Azerbaijan okanye i-Azerbaijan okanye i-Azerbaijan yeQela le-OSCE? Ngaba i-yerevan iqwalasele ukhetho lokuqonda iKarabakh njengelizwe elizimeleyo ngaphakathi kwemida ebhengezwe kwisivumelwano sikaNovemba 9?
-Umxholo weNkcazo ye-Triverite kaNovemba 9 kukupheliswa komlilo kunye nawo onke amaxhala kumda we-Nagorno-Karabakh Deators, kunye nendawo yokuhlala e-Ardahh Russia. Le ngxelo ichaza imeko ngexesha lokwamkelwa kwakho ngokuqonda ukuba imbambano yokuhlaliswa kwezopolitiko yokugqibela ye-Nagorno-Karabakh ivunyelwe. Siphuma kwinto yokuba ngokukodwa kuthetha ukubathethwano sinokuba sisisombululo esiya kuthathela ingqalelo amalungelo onke kwaye azise uxolo kunye nokuzinza kwiCaucasus yaseMzantsikeni. Kwaye isiseko solo phohla kuqala kufuneka kuqala ngokwabo ubume be-Ardahh.
Isiseko sembambano ye-Nagorno-Karabakh imbambano ngumbuzo womthetho wabantu base-Ardakh ngokuzimela. Eli lungelo alinakucinezelwa okanye liqhutywa ngamandla. IArmenia yenziwa kwaye iya kuqhubeka nokwenza ngokwembono yokwamkelwa kwamalungelo abantu base-Ardakh ngokuzimela nangokhuseleko. Nokuba ingaba kwinqanaba kwaye kwaye phantsi kwazo naziphi na iimeko akunakuba phantsi kolawulo lweAzerbaijan. Ukukhala komoya wokugqibela kwaphinda uqinisekisile ukuba i-Ardakh njenge-Azerbaijan iya kuthetha i-Ardekh ngaphandle kwabasebenzi base-Armenia.
Sonke siyakukhumbula ukucocwa kohlanga, silungelelaniswe ngasekupheleni kweminyaka yee-1980 nasekuqalekeni kwezixeko ezikhulu zeAzerbaijan, ezingakhange zidityaniswe ngokuthe ngqo neNagorno-Karabakh. NgoFebruwari 27 Manqaku kwi-33 kaFebruwari isikhumbuzo seminyaka engama-33 yeminyaka yobuhlungu esemaseka ye-Managon yenani labemi baseArgayito, abazimisele ukuthatha inxaxheba kwabasemagunyeni baseAzerbaijan.
Iziganeko kwiSupgait kunye neePigroms ezilandelayo eBaku, ezibanjelwe phantsi kweSubgait ", kunye nezobuso zeMfazwe" kunye neTrimieds kunye neTrumies yeMfazwe ye-Azerbaijan kwimimandla ye-Azerbaike, ngakumbi, Kwingingqi yeGadrurt, sisiqinisekiso esibonakalayo sokuba kuphela ekufezekiseni ilungelo lokuzimisela ukuze ukwazi ukuqinisekisa ukuba ubomi kunye nokhuseleko lwabantu base-Armenia kwikhaya labo lembali.
Ngokuphathelele kwifomathi yokuhlala, siye saphinda sachaza ukuba isihlalo se-Osce seqela le-OSCE yeyona ndlela inesigunyaziso sehlabathi, apho isigqibo sokugqibela sezopolitiko sifikelele khona. Ngokuphathelene noku, isikhundla sethu asiguqukanga - imiba ephambili yokuhlala uxolo namhlanje ayisonjululwa. Oku kuhambelana ngokupheleleyo noluvo lwezitulo ze-Osce Group zeqela le-OSCK, eyaboniswa ngokucacileyo nakwingxelo kaDisemba 3, 2020.
I-Arday nxamnye ne-Ardakh, ukusetyenziswa kwendlela njengendlela yokusombulula imbambano kukucela umngeni kuluntu lwehlabathi lonke, kunye nokunciphisa iinzame zomhlaba kunye negunya lezitulo ze-CAIRS. Sinethemba lokuba izitulo ze-CO-CO-CART ziya kuqinisekisa umsebenzi wabo kwaye zikhokelele ngempumelelo inkqubo yoxolo.
Ngokwamkelwa kwe-Ardakh njengelizwe elizimeleyo yiArmenia, i-Irevan igcinwe kwinkqubo yothetha-thethano. Namhlanje, i-ajenda yethu ifanele imbamba yokuhlaziya inkqubo yokuhlaliswa koxolo, ngenxa yoko kuya kuba nakho ukubonelela ngokukhuseleka kwexesha elide nokhuseleko kwingingqi yethu.
- Ngaba ukudibana kwakho neNtloko ye-Azerbaijani nakwamanye amazwe? Ngaba uthethathethwano kwintlangano yentlanganiso yeenkokeli zala mazwe mabini?
-Ngangaze ikhuphe iintlanganiso. Nangona kunjalo, nayiphi na intlanganiso, ukuba ayicwangciswanga kuphela ngenjongo yokuseka, kufuneka ihambelane neekhrayitheriya ezithile. Okokuqala, sithetha ngokudalwa kwemozulu efanelekileyo, malunga nokwenziwa kwe-ajenda ethile, kwaye, oko kubaluleke kakhulu, kufanele kwenziwe phambi kwengeniso kwelinye icala.
- YINTONI eyenziwayo nabagcini-boxolo baseRussia, IKomiti yeZizwe yeHlabathi ye-Red Cross kunye nabasemagunyeni eAzerbaijan ukuba bafune ukungafihlisi nabafi? Xa, ngokutsho kwakho, inkqubo yokwabelana ngeMfazwe ingaphelela, ngaba kukho idatha echanekileyo kwinani lamabanjwa avela kumacala amabini?
-Ukutshintshiselana ngamabanjwa emfazwe, ubutshaba kunye nabanye abantu abagcina inkcazo-mali kaNovemba 9, 2020. Kolu lwala kwinqanaba leSizwe, kulungelelwaniso lomsebenzi wamathambo okuqhutywa. IArmenia yazalisekisa izibophelelo zayo zokudlulisela amabanjwa emfazwe ngokusemthethweni "kubo bonke". Ngokwahlukileyo, iAzerbaijan idala imiqobo yenkcitho nengenangqondo ngokubuyiswa kwangoko kwamabanjwa emfazwe kwaye ebamba abantu.
Icala leAzerbaijan libuhlungu uluhlu lwamabanjwa aseArmenia kwaye uyala ukuvuma inyani yokuthintelwa kwabasebenzi base-Armenia emkhosini naseburhulumenteni. Ngaphezu koko, i-baku esemthethweni nxamnye namabanjwa amatyala olwaphulo-mthetho kwizityholo zentsomi.
Ukuziphatha okunjalo kweAzerbaijan kungaphikisi kuphela imilinganiselo yomthetho wamalungelo abantu, kodwa kukwaphulwa ngokuthe qeshwa kwengxelo ye-tritite, ngaloo ndlela ibeka ukuphunyezwa kwezibonelelo zayo ngokubanzi.
Ukubuya ngokukhawuleza nangokukhuselekileyo kwawo onke amabanjwa emfazwe yinto ephambili. Ngale nto, siyayibulela imigudu ye-Russian Federation njengomlamli onoxanduva nongenamkhethe kumcimbi wokusetyenziswa ngokupheleleyo kwesivumelwano malunga nokubuya kwamabanjwa.
Ngenxa yemigudu edibeneyo, kunokwenzeka ukuba ubuyele kwilizwe lasekhaya lababanjiweyo baseArmenia. Ngakumbi ukulibazisa isigqibo salo mbandela woluntu, ewe, kungekuphela nje kwentlungu yoluntu lwaseArmenia, kodwa imele umnxeba ngokuthe ngqo i-Russian Federatite kaNovemba 9 kunye noluntu lwamazwe aphesheya njenge iyonke.
- I-Armemenia ihambelana njani nenyaniso yokuba umkhosi waseTurkey ukhona kwiZiko loLawulo oluDibeneyo? Ngaba umba wokuzibandakanya kwicala laseArmenia elixoxwe ngalo emsebenzini weli ziko?
-Indima engekhoyo ye-Ankra kwi-Nagorno-Karabakh ye-Narabakh, ngakumbi ekunxaxheni kokugqibela kuyabonakala. Oku, okokuqala, kubhekiselelwe kudluliselo kunye nokuthatha inxaxheba kwabanqolobi kwimimandla yengingqi ye-Turkey ePintbash, uncedo lwezobuchwephesha kwi-Azerbaijan kwimfazwe nxamnye nezona Kula malungiselelo mathathu kumlilo ophelileyo ongenisa ingxelo edibeneyo kaNovemba 9.
Silindele ukuba ifuthe elihlelelekileyo loluntu lwamazwe aphesheya ukuze kufezekiswe ukuba i-Turkey ihlaziye isimo sengqondo sayo esinobundlongondlongo kwi-armenia kunye nabantu baseArmenia.
-Ukubandakanyeka okusebenzayo kweTurkey kwinkqubo yokuthetha-thetha-krabakh ye-yerevan?
- Amaqela abalaleli kunye nabalali bamazwe aphesheya banokuthatha inxaxheba kwinkqubo yothethathethwano-izitulo ze-CO yeqela le-OSCE. I-Turkey, i-Uni-iczzle ixhase imisebenzi yoogqomo lweMpuma ephakathi e-Ardahh, kwaye ikwabandakanya nabasebenzi babo emkhosini, kwaye ikwabandakanyekile kwi-Drones kwinani le-Arday kwi-Arderal, kodwa kwangokunjalo nokude kwawo okugqibeleleyo Inkqubo yothetha-nye.
-Inkulumbuso yeArmenia Nikol Pashlinyaan ngaphambili ibisithi kwinkcazo edibeneyo kaNovemba 9 Kukho izinto ezinqabileyo ezinengxaki ", kwaye" kukhona kwaye "kukho umsebenzi osebenzayo kuwo wonke le micimbi." Ngaba oku kuthetha ukuba iYerevan inomdla wokuphinda icombulule amanye amalungiselelo eNgxelo kaNovemba 9? Ngaba kunokwenzeka ukuba ulungelelanise imiba enzima, kubandakanya ukutshintshiselana amabanjwa?
-IArmenia inamathela ngokungqongqo kumgaqo wokufezekisa amaqela kuwo onke amalungiselelo enkcazo kaNovemba 9, 2020. Ukwenzela ukuxoxa ngemiba enxulumene nokuphunyezwa kwemigaqo yesicelo, kwinqanaba likazwelonke, kwenziwa iikomishini zamasebe. Imibuzo ephakamayo kumanqanaba athile ixoxwa ngokusebenza. Sijonge ukuqhubeka nokulandela ngqo le ndlela yokumiliselwa kwengxelo ye-tripite.
Nangona kunjalo, kwimicimbi eliqela, sijonga ngokungakhathali kwicala leAzerbaijan ukuze sifeze amalungiselelo, kukho ukutolikwa kwamalungiselelo enkcazo kathathu, kubandakanya nokuphunyezwa kwamabanjwa emfazwe kunye nabanye abantu abachongiweyo.
UYerevan waphinda wabhengeza ubukho bobuchwephesha bamanye amazwe kumda wengxabano, ukulwa kwi-Azerbaijan. Ngaba ingxaki ifanelekile emva kokugqitywa kwembambano? Ngaba i-Yerevan yafumaneka ubungqina obukekayo eKarabakh Sercendaries ukusuka eSyria, kwaye nokuba isisongelo sigcinwe kulo mmandla unxulumene noku?
-Ukuba ubandakanyeke kwimbarstickive nxamnye ne-Arderiakh, iAzerbaijan neTurkey yatshintshelwa kumlo wabanqolobi - le nyaniso yaqinisekiswa ngamahlakani ethu amanye amazwe, kwaye, kwakuqala i-CO-CO-CA-CHAHINKO IQELA E Elona nqanaba liphezulu.
Imikhosi yangaphandle eyayinike izivumo zavalelwa kwintsimi ye-Ardakh. Amatyala olwaphulo-mthetho adluliselwa kwiimeko ezifanelekileyo zomsebenzi.
Inyani yobukho becala le-Azerbaijan yezigidi zamazwe angaphandle ikwamkelwe njengenani lemibutho yezizwe ngezizwe. Kwingxelo yeqela elisebenzayo lokusebenza ekusebenziseni i-menovembayo kaNovemba 11, i-2020, kusithiwa ukuba i-mercenaries ithunyelwe kwizakhiwo zemfazwe kunye nokunyhashwa kwamalungelo oluntu ngexesha lokulwa kwemfazwe yaseSyria. Le ngxelo ichaza ngokucacileyo indima yeTurkey ekutshintsheni kweengcali zamanye amazwe.
Bonke abaguquki bamanye amazwe, boyisiwe yiTurkey kunye neAzerbaijan, ukuya kumda wembambano yeNagorno-Karabakh kufuneka ngoko nangoko evela kulo mmandla. Isigqibo soBunkokeli beAzerbaijan ukuba siguqule ilizwe lakhe ukuya kwiTurkey Satellite kwaye kugxilwe kubugrogrisi sisisongelo esibi kungekuphela nje kule mimandla kuphela, kodwa nayo kukhuseleko lwamanye amazwe kuphela.
- Leliphi inqanaba le-Armenian-Russian ubudlelwane ngoku? Ngaba uyayibona imfuneko yokuqinisa unxibelelwano lwe-terilatal?
-Iimeko zobuqu ze-Arminia-Russian i-Russian i-Intertatered ichazwe kwangaphambili ngumsebenzi rhoqo, oqhubekayo ngokubhekisele kokudityaniswa kwabo ngakumbi kunye nokuziqhelanisa nezinto zanamhlanje, ezinokuba nazo kumanqanaba emimandla nakwehlabathi. Sijonge ukwenza lo msebenzi kwiqhosha elilungelelanisiweyo, ngokusekelwe kwimfuno yokuqinisekisa imidla yengcambu yabantu bamazwe ethu. Ngokwemvelo, ubudlelwane babantu bamazwe ethu bahlala besisiseko salo msebenzi.
Kuyacaca ukuba ukuphuculwa okufanayo kubudlelwane obuhambelanayo kwimibutho yase-Armanian-Russian abayi kuchaphazela kuphela umntu othatyathwe ngokwahlukeneyo yindawo yokunxibelelana, kodwa nangezinye iindawo ezibandakanyekileyo kwi-ajenda yentsebenziswano yethu.
Sijonge ukwenza lo msebenzi ngaphakathi kwesakhelo seendlela zethu zokunxibelelana ezikhoyo. Sikwathetha ngekhomishini yoorhulumente malunga nentsebenziswano yoqoqosho, kunye nengxoxo yepalamente yepalamente kwisikhokelo sekhomishini enkulu kunye neekomiti ezifanelekileyo zeprofayile, nakwezinye iindlela. Ngokwemvelo, yonke le nto iya kuqhubela phambili nendima esebenzayo yokulungelelaniswa kwamasebe ethu amazwe.
Ndifuna ukugxininisa ukubaluleka kwencoko yababini enzulu, esiyenzayo kwaye sijonge ukunyuka kwinqanaba leenkonzo zika-Armenia naseRussia.