NgoMashi 8, omunye wabaholi be-Belarusian aphikisani uSvetlana Touthanovskaya umhlangano noMongameli wase-US uJoe Bediden, ukugcizelela ukuthi iWashington "njengamanje ibheka iBelarus." Lokhu kwenzeke ngokuphikisana nokugxekwa kukanobhala wase-US u-Anthony Blinken ekhelini leziphathimandla zaseBelarusian, kanye noMongameli waseBelarus Alexander Lukashenko ku "Thebushili". Yiziphi izinqubomgomo ezizonamathela e-United States maqondana nokuphikiswa kweBelarusian, futhi yimaphi amabutho azobheja eWashington, engxoxweni ne-Eurasia.Expert, i-Dmitry yezepolitiki - i-Driminsry Drimitry Drobkhnitsky iye yatshelwa.
- UDmitry Olegovich, uzuzelwe ini uJoe BEETEN Svetlana ekuhlanganeni nathi uMongameli wase-US we-USA?
- Lesi yisiko elide kangaka: Noma yikuphi ukuphikiswa okungelona ohlelwayo kungekudala kube yiklayenti le- "Big Western Ogigaba". Lokhu, Maye, sekuvele umthetho wemvelo nje. Konke kulula lapha: Noma umuntu eqotho kakhulu yentando yeningi, kungekudala kufanele akhethe - noma ngabe ngandlela thile kufanele acabange ngokuthuthuka kombuso wezwe lakhe, noma ukungqubuzana negunya elikhulu eWashington, okuyilo Konke okuzithobayo.
Zonke izingxoxo ngohlobo lwentando yeningi ngomqondo othile azilungile ngomqondo othile, ngoba intando yeningi yaseNtshonalanga, njengoba sibona ngo-2020, kukhanya kakhulu indlela yokuphatha i-elite yenkululeko. Ukuze leli lite liqhubeke nokuphatha, akunandaba ukuthi ngabe kunokhetho olulungile nolulungile namavoti wokubala, kukhona umshini wamahhala. Ngakho-ke, kuwo wonke umuntu ogcina noma ukukhohlisa noma ngokunengqondo ukukwenza, kufanele uye ekhaphethini kwiziphathimandla zomhlaba, akukho okumangazayo lapha.
- Ngabe izidingo zeSvetlana Tikhanovskaya e-USA ziyanelisa? Yini engase ingasabela ekuphathweni kwabaseMelika?
"Bazogedla ekhanda, bathi:" Wenze kahle, ake siqhubeke. " Konke kuzoncika kuphela kulawo masu akhelwe emnyangweni wombuso maqondana namazwe asondele kakhulu eRussia. Lezi zinhlelo azibanjwanga ngokuphelele, kepha ngokujwayelekile konke kuzoncika kukho.
Kungabonakala ukuthi ngokushesha nje lapho ukuphathwa kukaByyden bekuza eWhite House, inani lemali enezimali eziphikisayo zanda kakhulu.
Uma kungakabikho konke ukuthi uMnyango Wezwe Ukwazile ukufihla kuTrump, waphonsa ngalezi zinhloso (uTrump akathandanga ngokwezimali ngokwezimali phesheya), manje, kwavulwa amasango, imali yaphela. Kepha abanye abahlaselwa ngokuqondile ngokuqondile abakakakabi, yize sibonile ukuvezwa okungathandeki kakhulu eBelarus, eRussia nokunye. Ngicabanga ukuthi ukucindezela okukhulu nokuhlaselwa okungathi sína kusengaphambili.
- NgoMashi 8, phakathi nomkhosi, ukufanele kwezishoshovu zomhlaba wonke u-US Blocrepary of State Anthony Blinken obizwa ngeBelarus Alexander Lukashenko "The Moshiverter of Europe". Ngabe lokhu kusho ukuguqulwa kwesithwathwa sokugcina sobudlelwano beWashington ngeMinsk esemthethweni?
- Okokuqala, igama elithi "Ubushiqela bokugcina beYurophu" abusha, kwavela eClinton Administration bese kuthi ngenkuthalo ngesikhathi sokuphathwa kwe-Obama kwakhulunywa. Ngokusobala, u-Alexander Lukashenko, ngesikhathi sakhe kukhona ukukhohlisa ukuthi abaphathi be-Trump, njengabezokuphatha ngokwanele, bazoxhumana naye lapho pompeo behamba, futhi lokho ngenxa yalokhu bekuzokwenzeka ukuze ulondoloze i-multi-vevector. Kuyacaca ukuthi ngisho nangemva kwalokho kwakungewona uhlelo olusebenzayo ngokukhethekile, kodwa manje - konke okunye. Manje, uma othintana nabo ebanjwa, bese kuthi eKremlin, kuzofanela bacabange ngokuqinile ngeqiniso lokuthi u-Alexander Lukashenko wangabaza futhi, kodwa empeleni ngeke amenzele yena.
Inkinga ukuthi isikhathi lapho kungenzeka ngosizo lokulinganisela okuthile phakathi kwezikhungo ezimbili zokuphoqa okuthile ukuze zisonteke. Futhi iRussia iba nzima ngokwengeziwe ukubekezelela i-multipleboard emingceleni yawo - akufaki iqhaza ekuvikelekeni kwezwe lonke.
- Ngabe lokhu kusho ukuthi ubudlelwane be-United States kanye neziphathimandla zaseBelarusian bazophinda bahlangane?
- Ngiyacabanga, yebo, ngokubheka imicibisholo. Noma kunjalo, ama-pragmatists aseDemocrats aphansi - anezinhloso ezicacile zemibono kanye nezinhloso kulokhu. Yini uPompeo ayefuna? Kwakufanele nje abone ukuthi iChina ngeke iye eBelarus ngaphambili kwangaphezu kwe-United States, konke okunye kwakungathandeki kakhulu kuye. IBelarus umngcele ochazwe ngokuphelele womhlaba wasentshonalanga, futhi kufanele ube ngaphansi kwezintshisekelo zeNtshonalanga. Angazithoba kanjani ngaphansi kwezintshisakalo zeNtshonalanga? Kuyacaca ukuthi ngokulahleka kobukhosi, ngokuqhuma kobudlelwano neRussia, ukuhlukaniswa kwalo kusuka ekuqinisweni kwethonya laseMoscow.
Konke lokhu kubhekwe ngale ndlela, ngakho angazi ukuthi kukhona ngokuthuthuka kwesikhashana nje, uma kungazelelwe, u-Alexander Lukashenko ufuna ukudlala intando yeningi yomhlaba, khona-ke kuzoba njalo, kepha kuzoba kubi kakhulu futhi kubi. Ngakho-ke, umugqa jikelele ulula kakhulu - ukuklebhula, uphule futhi ubhubhise umbuso. Ngicabanga ukuthi ukuxhasa ngezimali okusalungiswa kwesibili sombukiso - Isimo sombukiso-esibonisayo, njengoba ngangizama ukwenza kanjalo, ngendlela, ukuphathwa ngonyaka ka-2014 ngeke kube khona ngenxa yecala elisobala lalolu hlobo lwephrojekthi. Ngakho-ke, bazomane bahlukane futhi bazithobe ngaphandle kwemidlalo ibe ngohlobo oluthile lwesimo senkululeko esiyisibonelo.
- Yiliphi isu elizolandela e-United States maqondana nokuphikiswa kweBelarusian? Ukubheja kuzoba ngubani?
- Manje abaphathi baseMelika bane-General futhi abangaphansi kwabo abavela eKhomishini YaseYurophu banesimangalo esibi kakhulu ekuphikisweni okunenkululeko endaweni yangemva kweSoviet, ngoba abakwazanga ukwenza lutho oluningi. Manje kuzoba nokubuyekezwa okuthile kwamaqhinga. Imali eningi izokwabelwa leli cala. E-US, kukhona inkohliso enjalo yokuthi, uma wabela imali eningi, konke kuzophuma.
Kunoma ikuphi, ingcindezi izonyuka. Manje ukuphela kwento engashiwo ukuthi iphuzu lapha alikho ngisho nasekuhlukaniseni okuphikisayo (lokhu kungumphumela), futhi leli cala limane nje likudumazeka emhlabeni wonke ekuphikisweni okunenkululeko, okuthunyelwe kulokhu -Soviet Space namuhla.
Futhi-ke bazokwenza ngokulandelayo - bona. Manje sekucacile ukuthi ezinhlelweni zePost-Soviet Space zisancibilika.
- Uma kwenzeka entwasahlobo eBelarus izoqala kabusha amasheya, khona-ke kuyini ukusabela kwe-US?
- Umbuzo ukuthi uzobaxhasa kanjani - ngokweqiniso ("sinawe" njalonjalo) noma kuzoba uhlobo oluthile losizo olukhulu lwezobuchwepheshe ekuxhumaniseni. Izinga lokusekelwa lincike kakhulu kulokho okuzokwakhiwa kwi-White House, ukuthi bayibona kanjani yonke le ndaba. Kuze kube manje, kunohlobo oluthile lokudideka, oluhlobene neqiniso lokuthi noma yiziphi izinhloso zonke lezi zinto ezabiwe eBelarus azikafinyeleli ndawo ndawo, futhi ngalolu sibona kusobala ukuthi iqhinga lizobuyekezwa. Uma abantu bephuma, khona-ke ngokuqinisekile bayosekela ukuthi yini enye. Abamele abaningi bomnyango wombuso bazotshela amagama abo afanele, kepha umbuzo wangempela wokusekelwa uzoxazululwa ngokuya ngokuthi amaqhinga azokwamukelwa ngawaphi amaqhinga.
- Muva nje, uMongameli waseRussia uVladimir Putin noMongameli waseBelarus u-Alexashenko wenzeka eSochi, lapho abaholi bamazwe baxoxa khona ngokuqiniswa kwezempi, babuyela esihlokweni se- "Road Amamephu" ngokuhlanganiswa okujulile e-Union State. Ngabe kuzosithinta ezepolitiki nathi?
- Inqubomgomo yase-US naku-General Ntshonalanga maqondana neBelarus futhi noma yiliphi elinye izwe eRussia lishintshwa kuphela uma isu lethu lizoshintsha endaweni yangemva kweSoviet. Kuze kube manje, akukho umuzwa wokuthi isu lishintshwa kakhulu.
E-Russia, lokhu kunjalo ukuthi lokhu kungukuzikhethela kobuntu babo, futhi kuze kube yileso sikhathi isimo siyohlala sinjalo. Konke kushintsha okwamanje lapho kuzoshiwo ukuthi lokhu kuyithonya lethonya laseMoscow. Hhayi "semukela ukukhethwa koMbusi kweBelarus", futhi "lokhu kuyisizinda sethonya laseMoscow." Futhi okwamanje konke kuzoshintsha, futhi kuze kube yileso sikhathi lokho kuzokwenzeka. Njengombukiso wokuzijwayeza (Ukraine, isibonelo) ngesinye isikhathi, kukhona okungaphuka, futhi ngesinye isikhathi amabutho asentshonalanga angenza okuthile. Futhi, iNusand efanayo izofika kwesinye isikwere, amakhukhi azosabalalisa, futhi lapho vele anemali. Isikimu saziwa - lapho amandla eqala ukwenza buthaka, kwenzeka okuthile. Ngalo mqondo, ngangizobe ngisendaweni ka-Alexander Lukashenko, angizange ngicabange. Usevele wakhipha futhi wanquma ukuthi wasindiswa, futhi eqinisweni kuyaqhubeka konke lokhu, futhi akukho ukusindiswa ku-relti-Vector. Ngenkathi iRussia izoqhubeka nokuxhasa lokhu kubumbana, amazwe asendaweni yayo eseduzane izoqhubeka kuyo, naphezu kwanoma yiziphi iziqinisekiso ebunganeni, ukuthula kanye nazo zonke ezinye izinto.
Umemezele uMaria Mamzelkina