Musi waMarch 8, mumwe wevatungamiriri veSvetulana vanopikisa Svetulana Tikhanovskaya Musangano neMutungamiri weUS President Joe Biden, kushungurudza iyo Washington "parizvino inoteerera kuBelarus." Izvi zvakaitika nekumashure kwekushoropodzwa kweMunyori weNyika Anthony Blinken muKero yeVakuru veBelarussian, uye Mutungamiri weBelarus Alexander Lukashenko mu "uroyi". Mitemo ipi ichavanamatira kuUnited States maererano nekushora kweBealusia, uye ndeapi mauto achange achitsiva neWashington, muEurasia.expert, musayenduru wezvematongerwo enyika
- Dmitry Olegovich, Joe Biden Svetlana TikHanovskaya Gadziriko Kubva Mukusangana neMutungamiri weUSA?
- Iyi ndiyo tsika yakadaro inguva yakareba: chero chisingaremu chisarikwi chakapikiswa nekukurumidza, zvichizotevera kuve mutengi we "zviremera zvikuru zvekumadokero". Izvi, maiwe, atove mutemo wechisikigo. Zvese zviri nyore pano: Kunyangwe munhu ari echokwadi edemarrat Zvese zviri pasi pachavo.
Kukurukurirana kose pamusoro porudzi rwekumadokero kweDemocracy mune imwe nzira haina kunaka mupfungwa, nekuti kuDemocrasi wokumavirira, sezvatinoona muna 2020, inopenya inzira yekugadzirisa iyo liberal Elite. Kuti izvi zvive kuti vakweza vaenderere mberi nekugadzirisa, hazvina basa kana paine sarudzo dzakarurama uye dzakasarudzika uye kuverenga mavhoti, pane madonhwe emahara. Saka, kune wese anochengetedza kana kunyepedzera kana chaizvo kuzviita, iwe unofanirwa kuenda kukapeti kune zviremera zvepasirese, hapana chinzvishamisa pano.
-Zvinodiwa zveSvetlana Tikhanovskaya muUSA kugutsa? Chii chingave chakaitwa neAmerican Administration?
"Ivo vachanyura mumusoro, voti:" Waita zvakanaka, ngatienderere mberi. " Zvese zvinhu zvichaenderana chete kubva kune izvo zvirongwa zviri kuvakwa mudhipatimendi reHurumende muhukama kune nyika dziri padyo neRussia. Izvi zvirongwa hazvina kubviswa zvizere, asi kazhinji zvese zvinoenderana nazvo.
Zvinogona kuoneka kuti nekungotungamirwa nemutungamiriri webhomba, huwandu hwemari hwakawanda hwekupikiswa hwaive hwakawanda kwazvo.
Kana zvisati zvaitika kuti Dhipatimendi reHurumende rakakwanisa kuvanda kubva kuTrump, VaTrump havana kunyatsoda kudedera mari kunze kwenyika), zvakadaro, magedhi akavhurika, mari yakayerera. Asi kumwe kurwiswa kwakanyanya kurwiswa hakuna kumbobvira kwave, kunyangwe taona kuratidzwa kusingafadzi zvakanyanya muBelarus, muRussia uye zvichingodaro. Ini ndinofunga kuti kudzvinyirira kwakanyanya uye kurwiswa kwakakomba kuchiri mberi.
- Musi waMarch 8, mukufamba kwemitambo, iko kuitirwa kwevanotsigira pamusoro penzvimbo yeUnyika yeNyika yeNyika Anthony Alexander Lukashenko "mudzvinyiriri wekupedzisira weEurope". Izvi zvinoreva here shanduko kune yekupedzisira frost yeWashington Huraucal ne Official Minsk?
- Kutanga, zita rekuti "mudzvanyiriri wekupedzisira weEurope" haasi mutsva, akatangira muClinton Administration uyezve nekushingaira panguva yekutonga kweObama vakataurwa. Sezviri pachena, Alexander Lukashenko, panguva yake pakanga pane kumwe kunyepedzera kuti kutonga kwaTrump, sekutonga kwakakwana, kuchaita kuti Pompeo akafamba, uye izvozvo zvaizoitika kuchengetedza vazhinji-vheji. Zviri pachena kuti kunyangwe ipapo kwaive kusiri chirongwa chakanyanya kushanda, asi ikozvino - zvimwe zvese. Zvino, kana maConesties akaitwa, anofanirwa kufunga zvakasimba pamusoro pechikonzero chekuti Alexander Lukashenko akazezerazve, asi zvakadaro haazomugumi kwaari.
Dambudziko nderekuti nguva yacho yaigoneka nerubatsiro rweimwe chiyero pakati pekusvika kune maviri ekuzvimanikidza chimwe chinhu kuti vashandure. Uye Russia iri kuwedzera zvakanyanya kuoma kutsungirira yakawanda bhodhi mumiganhu yavo - haina kubatsira kuchengetedzeka yenyika.
- Izvi zvinoreva here kuti hukama hweUnited States uye zviremera zveBelarussia zvichaderera zvakare?
- Ini ndinofunga, ehe, maererano nekufunga kwefalmart. Zvakadaro, iyo pramboatists muDemocrats ishoma - ivo vane zvirevo zvakajeka zvirongwa uye zvinangwa mune ino kesi. Chii chaida Pompapoo? Aingofanira kuona kuti China yaisazoenda kuBelarus pakutanga kupfuura United States, zvese zvimwe zvaive zvisingadi iye zvakanyanya. Belarus muganho wokumadokero weWestern World, uye hunofanira kuva pasi pezvido zveWest. Angave sei pasi pezvido zveWest? Zviri pachena kuti kuburikidza nekurasikirwa kwouchangamire, kuburikidza nekubviswa kwehukama neRussia, kuzvitsaura nezvazvo kubva mukusimbiswa kwacho kweMoscow.
Izvi zvese zvinotariswa nenzira iyi, saka handizive nezvekuvandudza kwenguva pfupi, kana ukangoerekana wadzvanywa, Alexander Lukashenko anoda kutamba demokrasi yepasi rose, saka pamwe ichave, asi ichaguma nekukurumidza uye yakaipa. Naizvozvo, mutsara wenguva dzose wakareruka - kubvarura, kupwanya uye kuparadza mamiriro. Ini ndinofunga kuti kuFince yechipiri Dhizaini yeChiratidziro-Inoratidza kuratidzira Slavic State, pandakaedza kuita izvi, nenzira, kutungamira muna 2014 hakuzove nekuda kweiyo mhaka yerudzi urwu rweprojekiti iyi. Naizvozvo, ivo vachazongotyora uye vanozviisa pasi pasina chero mitambo mune imwe mhando yerudzi rwemienzaniso.
- Ndedzipi zano dzichanamatira kuUnited States maererano nekushorwa kweBeferusiy? Ko kubheja chii kuchavepo?
- Iye zvino maneja weAmerica ane zvakawanda uye vaisariridzi zvavo kubva kuEuropean Commission vane zvirevo zvakakomba mukupikiswa kunosunungura muPost-Soviet nzvimbo, nekuti hapana chaaigona kuita zvakanyanya. Ikozvino kuchave nekumwe kudzokorora kwemazano. Mari yakawanda ichagoverwa nyaya iyi. MuUS, kune kunyepedzera kwakadaro, kana iwe ukagovera mari yakawanda, zvese zvichaitika.
Chero zvazvingaitika, kumanikidzwa kuchawedzera. Iye zvino chinhu chete chinogona kutaurwa ndechekuti pfungwa iyi haisi kunyange mukupikiswa (izvi ndiwo mhedzisiro), nyaya yacho ndeyekusagadzikana kwepasirese mune yakasununguka kupikiswa, iyo iri mune post -Soet nzvimbo iri nhasi.
Uye ipapo vachazoita zvinotevera - maona. Izvozvi zvava pachena kuti muPost-Soviet Space Zvirongwa zvichiri kunyungudika.
- Muchiitiko chekuti chitubu muBelarus chinotangazve kugovera migove, saka chii chichava mhinduro yeUS?
- Mubvunzo ndewokuti ivo vachavatsigira sei - zvakachena rheetorically ("tinemi" uye zvichingodaro) kana ichava imwe mhando yehunyanzvi hombe mukubatira. Chikamu chekutsigirwa chinoenderana zvakanyanya pane izvo zvirongwa zvichavakwa muWhite House, maitiro anozviona zvese zvacho. Kusvika parizvino, kune imwe mhando yekuvhiringidzika, iyo ine chekuita nenyaya yekuti chero zvinangwa zvese izvi zvikamu zveBelarus usati wasvika kune imwe nzvimbo, uye mupfungwa ino zviri pachena kuti zano racho richadzokororwa. Kana vanhu vakabuda, ipapo vachatsigira kuti zvimwe sei zvimwe. Vamiriri vazhinji veDhipatimendi reHurumende vachazivisa mazwi avo akanaka, asi mubvunzo chaiwo wekutsigirwa unogadziriswa zvichienderana nekuti ndedzipi nzira dzinogamuchirwa.
- Munguva pfupi yapfuura, Mutungamiri weRussia Vladimir Putin neMutungamiri weBelerus Alexander Lukashenko vakagara muSchihatenko vakaona kusimbiswa kwechiuto, vakadzokera kuchinyorwa che "Mepu ye" Mepu "yekubatanidza mubatanidzwa. Zvinotikanganisa zvematongerwo enyika here?
- Iyo US Policy uye muGeneral West zvine rurefu kune Belarus uye chero imwe nyika muRussia inoshandurwa chete kana zano redu richachinja muPost-Soviet nzvimbo. Kusvika parizvino, hapana manzwiro ekuti zano rakachinja zvakanyanya.
MuRussia, izvi ndizvo zvakaitika kuti izvi ndizvo zvavangamire sarudzo, uye kusvikira panguva iyoyo mamiriro acho acharamba akadaro. Zvese zvinoshanduka chete panguva yacho kana zvichanzi iyi ndiyo nzvimbo yeiyo pesvedzero yeMoscow. Kwete "Isu tinogamuchira Changamire Sarudzo yeBlarus", uye "Iyi ndiyo nzvimbo yekurudziro yeMoscow." Uye panguva ino nguva dzose dzichachinja, uye kusvikira panguva iyoyo zvichaitika. Sezvinoratidzwa kuratidza (Ukraine, semuenzaniso) pane imwe nguva, chimwe chinhu chinogona kutyora, uye pane imwe nguva mauto emadokero anogona kuita chimwe chinhu. Zvekare, iyo fananidzo imwechete ichasvika kune imwe mraba, makuki kuchaparadzira, uye ikoko vatove nemari yacho. Urongwa hunozivikanwa - kana simba rakatanga kushaya simba, chimwe chinhu chiri kuitika. Mupfungwa iyi, ndingaitika panzvimbo yeAlexander Lukashenko, ini handina kufungidzira. Akatosvitsa uye akasarudza kuti akaponeswa, uye ichokwadi inoenderera ichi zvese, uye hapana ruponeso muvhu rakawanda. Ipo Russia ichiramba ichitsigira iyi yakawanda, nyika kubva kunharaunda yaro iri pedyo ichapfuurira nayo, kunyangwe paine zvivimbiso mukushamwaridzana, rugare nezvimwe zvinhu zvese.
Yakazivisa Maria Mamzilkina